by: mehruss
posted: January 10, 2008

i really like this design…
great idea

by: menosketiago
posted: January 10, 2008

I like the concept of it but on the semiotic level my opinion is that the t-shirt itself doesn’t translate the message effectivelly. I mean, how many people in the world recognize the shape of Iraq? It was proved in a study that most americans don’t even recognize the shpae of the USA =X
On the other hand why 2 sides? What complementary message does that bring?
On a personal taste level I would never go for a white t-shirt, nothing beats a black t with white or red prints
I reall think you should rethink this on the design level cuz the brains are there

by: bseglem
posted: January 10, 2008

Thank you ‘mehruss’, and for ‘menosketiago’:

This isn’t supposed to be for the people who don’t know, cause if they don’t know about a WAR they aren’t going to care! They are the people that are causing the problem! (PS I hope you are not one of those people!) As for two sides, it shows it’s versatility as a graphic.

Read the description…
“It looks good on any color shirt”

I chose white in this instance because its simple and displays the design best.

by: menosketiago
posted: January 10, 2008

I meant if people don’t know something isn’t the designer supposed to communicate it to them? Taht’s why it should be more obvious cuz we are talking about less knownealgable people

by: bseglem
posted: January 10, 2008

“This isn’t supposed to be for the people who don’t know, cause if they don’t know about a WAR they aren’t going to care! They are the people that are causing the problem! (PS I hope you are not one of those people!)”

by: quam
posted: January 10, 2008

I gave this a 3, because quite frankly, it is a very amateur design. It reminds me of something a 4th grader would create on some kind of elementary school assignment.

by: jmseglem
posted: January 10, 2008

I think this is a pretty sweet t-shirt, I mean, we all now that Cambodia is the source of all the worlds tears, and this shirt really proves it. 1/10

by: ChicChick
posted: January 10, 2008

There’s lots of design inspiration to come from Iraq… where does one begin? But this design is just too simple.

by: menosketiago
posted: January 10, 2008

Mate, I’m not even american so I have no responsabilities on that war

by: rkritz
posted: January 10, 2008

this tee is life altering.

by: bseglem
posted: January 10, 2008

“Mate, I’m not even american so I have no responsabilities on that war wink”

Ah yes Portugal had no involvement in Iraq and the Portuguese don’t by Iraqi oil too?

by: gnarpirate
posted: January 10, 2008

viva la revolution

by: jds3353
posted: January 10, 2008

I think the simplicity of the design and its universality is what makes it successful. Message is best delivered in simple, graphic terms--think stop sign, smiley face, fallout shelter icons etc...anyone from anywhere or from any culture can relate and understand these simple graphic elements.

by: Jules78
posted: January 10, 2008

Peace out people!!!

by: lancer
posted: January 11, 2008

This dude really know his stuff. This is one of the most powerful graphic representations I have ever seen of imperial America’s misguided econo-military adventurism. Well done, lad!!

by: menosketiago
posted: January 11, 2008

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=6895795628

“I’m voting 10 for Bret’s life altering t-shirt design!”

This is how you act towards peace? Warmonging people in activist contests? LOL

by: menosketiago
posted: January 11, 2008

I don’t have any need to discuss politics with you and I bet you don’t even know where Portugal is… get this, people will not recognize the shape of iraq on the shirt and it will not have any effect in spreading the message, my critic is that simple and most of all it’s my point of view. If others (aside friends) think it works then I’m wrong, it happened before and it will happen again.

by: bseglem
posted: January 11, 2008

I know for a fact Portugal is in Australia. Blueberry.

by: menosketiago
posted: January 11, 2008

LOOLLOOLOOLLOL I hope that was a joke =X

by: gmoney400
posted: January 11, 2008

kick ass design… i love it and would pay for this

mashed potatoes

by: TazMan
posted: January 13, 2008

Well for a design that looks like it took about 5 minutes to do, you’re doing very well. Good design or lots of friends and Facebook contacts?

Nothing against simplicity, but compared to others that involved much more work, this doesn’t do anything for me, and I doubt many people would actually buy it.

by: Garrrr
posted: January 13, 2008

About five years too late! Doesn’t mean the message is wrong, just think this design isn’t going to make anybody look at the Iraq war any differently. Whoever doesn’t know that Iraq (and all the Middle East) is about oil and military strategy, might as well go back to watching daytime TV.

by: bseglem
posted: January 13, 2008

Actually it took 6 and 1/2 minutes “TazMan”.

So what we’ve learned here folks is that simple things can’t convey messages and symbols are not important… Where did you study design good sir?

“I doubt many people would actually buy it.”
Thanks marketing expert, your comment is valuable to our success.

by: bseglem
posted: January 13, 2008

“About five years too late! Doesn’t mean the message is wrong, just think this design isn’t going to make anybody look at the Iraq war any differently. Whoever doesn’t know that Iraq (and all the Middle East) is about oil and military strategy, might as well go back to watching daytime TV.”

I didn’t know that the war had ended…

by: LAX747
posted: January 13, 2008

Well, I’m one of your Facebook contacts that doesn’t think it’s “one of the most powerful graphic representations I have ever seen” or “life altering"… come on… let’s be a little more objective here.

SO HERE’S MY COUNTER COMMENT.... looks like a Poodle with a necklace.

by: ArtAdmin
posted: January 13, 2008

We have received a couple of emails regarding the use of Facebook promotion, and here is our response:

There is nothing wrong with using Facebook or any other website or means to promote your design. We certainly like to get as many visits as we can.

Artevist, however, is not about personal popularity contests, and we do hope that those coming to the site are truly interested in furthering its goals – art, design, activism and great T-shirt design.

As we are still very new, and don’t have a large membership yet, our first selections cannot rely on scoring alone, and we will be looking closely at voting patterns and membership to evaluate which designs have true, broad based support.

Thanks,

Eric

by: majortom
posted: January 14, 2008

This is a very defining symbol for a very defining time

by: KingsCastle
posted: January 14, 2008

Wow, lots of comments, so had to see what this was all about.

Good message, but just not enough design work to put it ahead of others I’ve seen on the site.

by: jmseglem
posted: January 14, 2008

I once ate 10 pounds of roast beef

by: myounis
posted: January 15, 2008

lol , and i thought i had a lot of votes , well, good luck :D, i like your design a lot , its simple and talks about something thats bugging a lot of us arabs (i am egyptian) , so hope this t-shirt sells, not that its going to change anything, but it could be a symbol for whoever is against the war , oh and the description of your design is really good :D

by: GreenMan
posted: January 17, 2008

Of course I like the idea, but it’s not really nice enough to want to wear on a Tee. It’s too flat. Even a highlight on the oil drop or something would have given it more life.

by: amira
posted: January 18, 2008

i dont like the design that much , but i like the message its trying to deliver, nice work

by: GreenMan
posted: January 18, 2008

The designer of this work is trashing others
(http://www.artevist.com/index.php/contests/submission_detail/3397_a_fair_trade/)

for being too simple. Go figure.

by: QuinnFlake
posted: January 25, 2008

So its Iraq.... with a default shape “drop” coming off the bottom? Hmm… good message, but the design is pretty basic. It might leave the wearer even confused....

by: bseglem
posted: February 06, 2008

“Some designs have received a great deal of support
from friends and family and that’s great, but we had to also weigh that against designs that perhaps didn’t attain the same numerical score, but had received consistently positive response from a wide variety of visitors.”

Thanks everybody!

by: jimmystark
posted: February 20, 2008

if u did any research you would know that the United States was receiving more crude oil from Iraq before the war, under Saddam Hussein’s regime. and if you did research you would also note that more than half of the United States’ crude oil imports come from non-opec countries, and even within the countries within OPEC, the majority of oil that comes from their is received from Nigeria,Saudi Arabia, and Venezuela...NOT iraq. So to state that this war is about oil is nonsense. If it were we’d be getting more oil than we were before. do your research.

by: bseglem
posted: February 20, 2008

The US isn’t taking the oil at all, the tax payers are paying for a war where oil companies then move in, get no bid contracts and resell the oil to Germany and France, and make payments to the US government. This means they are profiteering off a war. It’s not about getting the oil the government could give too @#$%! about the oil they are just reselling it to stack their money. Now sir giving me a legitimate reason for the war other then oil if you disagree so much! Oil is a fucking drug were addicted to and with drugs come drug dealers, what do you think we are?

by: jimmystark
posted: February 21, 2008

its a war about bullshit. its not an oil war. its not a religious war. its nothing. its just bullshit.

by: jankon
posted: April 20, 2008

I don’t care how “creative” a design is or how much work it required for the desinger to make it.  The only thing that counts for me is that it delivers the message and that it is attractive at the same time.

However, I would add “IRAK” either directly on the design, or somewhere around it (I am not a designer, so I cannot tell where).  I probably have at least the average knowledge of the world geography, and I would not easily assosiate the design with the Irak.  So why not simply make the message clearer?